I Do Not Deal With Mind-Body

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

December 29, 1980

My mind does not stay quiet, it goes here and there.

With all these ramblings you will be entertained, but you will not obtain knowledge. This is all spiritual entertainment, because the factual state of affairs is that what you are, you are, without modifications.

The desires are there; they will keep on demanding.

Finally, what are you?

I am nothing; mind etc. keeps on going.

They why are you learning all this?

To serve the people.

So many great people have rendered so many great services, but where are they now?

So many waves come and go, I want to pass my time by having no desires and serving others.

Do what you like. Rain falls and renders service to the beings. It does not suffer while rendering services. All the beings that come about are sustained due to rain, are they happy?

They are all suffering. I too do not have peace. How does Maharaj see us?

I see everyone as I am. This being is the combination of the parents. all are engrossed in concepts, they enjoy them.

When I am one with music etc. it is all joy, but when I am in conflict, it is all misery. Sometimes I feel angry. Why?

Mind and body and their actions and reactions is not my subject. I do not deal with these problems. There are numerous other people who can deal with such problems.

But almost all people are on the side of body-mind. One in one million is open to you.

Ask about yourself, do not bother about others.

On one side I feel attracted towards silence and yet I feel that millions suffer and Sages do not do anything about them.

Because their suffering is illusory.

I know that there are four states - waking, dreaming, deep sleep and a state beyond all three. I can understand intellectually but still suffering is there.

Get rid of all the four states and also rid the people of their suffering. Let the illusory world take care of itself, you must find out who you are.

I want to practice Naturopathy and teach others and learn wisdom myself.

By developing these concepts you will not come out of it at all. First understand what is circumstantial and what is real. You are the product of the concepts of your parents, are you not?

Yes, at a conceptual level.

Mind and all the concepts are due to your primary concept I AM. Your parents and you are simultaneous concepts. Now, without trying to experience, what experience are you having?

I am.

Is it not a concept? There are concepts formed from concepts, it is a vast world of concepts.

I would like to be free from them.

This is to be realized by one's self; it is not to be passed on by word of mouth. Who is obtaining the Self-knowledge directly? When did I happen to be? I must know about it myself, first-hand, not from others. You are, you know you are - this is the great Lord, the sudden, explosive effulgence. Surrender to it, and you will know all. It is without form or name. It is to be abided in by firm conviction. You could not see and judge the quality of light if you were not light yourself. You are that subtle knowledge, and if that is there, then only everything else is possible.