Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: In the Vyavaharika, above mentioned, how does maya come in?
D.: In the Vyavaharika, above mentioned, how does maya come in?
M.: Maya is only Isvara-Sakti or the activity of Reality.
D.: Why does it become active?
M.: How can this question arise? You are yourself within its fold. Are you standing apart from that universal activity in order to ask this question? The same Power is raising this doubt in order that all doubts may finally cease.
D.: The dream world is not purposeful as the jagrat world, because we do not feel that wants are satisfied.
M.: You are not right. There are thirst and hunger in dream also. You might have had your fill and kept over the remaining food for the next day. Nevertheless you feel hungry in dream. This food does not help you. Your dream-hunger can be satisfied only by eating dream-food. Dream-wants are satisfied by dream-creations only.
D.: We recollect our dreams in our jagrat but not vice-versa.
M.: Not right again. In the dream you identify yourself with the one now speaking.
D.: But we do not know that we are dreaming as apart from waking as we do now.
M.: The dream is the combination of jagrat and sushupti. It is due to the samskaras of the jagrat state. Hence we remember dreams at present. Samskaras are not formed contrariwise; therefore also we are not aware of the dream and jagrat simultaneously. Still everyone will recollect strange perplexities in dream. One wonders if he dreams or is awake. He argues and determines that he is only awake. When really awake, he finds that it was all only a dream.
D.: Why does it become active?
M.: How can this question arise? You are yourself within its fold. Are you standing apart from that universal activity in order to ask this question? The same Power is raising this doubt in order that all doubts may finally cease.
D.: The dream world is not purposeful as the jagrat world, because we do not feel that wants are satisfied.
M.: You are not right. There are thirst and hunger in dream also. You might have had your fill and kept over the remaining food for the next day. Nevertheless you feel hungry in dream. This food does not help you. Your dream-hunger can be satisfied only by eating dream-food. Dream-wants are satisfied by dream-creations only.
D.: We recollect our dreams in our jagrat but not vice-versa.
M.: Not right again. In the dream you identify yourself with the one now speaking.
D.: But we do not know that we are dreaming as apart from waking as we do now.
M.: The dream is the combination of jagrat and sushupti. It is due to the samskaras of the jagrat state. Hence we remember dreams at present. Samskaras are not formed contrariwise; therefore also we are not aware of the dream and jagrat simultaneously. Still everyone will recollect strange perplexities in dream. One wonders if he dreams or is awake. He argues and determines that he is only awake. When really awake, he finds that it was all only a dream.
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