Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: Surrender comes after effort.
M.: Yes, it becomes complete in due course.
D.: Is a teacher necessary for instructions?
M.: Yes, if you want to learn anything new. But here you have to unlearn.
D.: Yet a teacher is necessary.
M.: You have already got what you seek elsewhere. So no teacher is necessary.
D.: Is there any use of the man of Realisation for the seeker?
M.: Yes. He helps you to get rid of your delusion that you are not realised.
D.: So, tell me how.
M.: The paths are meant only to de-hypnotise the individual.
D.: De-hypnotise me. Tell me what method to follow.
M.: Where are you now? Where should you go?
D.: I know ‘I am’; but I do not know what I am.
M.: Are there two ‘I’s then?
D.: It is begging the question.
M.: Who says this? Is it the one who is, or is it the other who does not know what he is?
D.: I am, but do not know what or how?
M.: ‘I’ is always there.
D.: Does the ‘I’ undergo any transformation, say in death?
M.: Who witnesses the transformation?
D.: You seem to speak Jnana yoga. This is Jnana yoga.
M.: Yes, it is.
D.: But surrender is bhakti yoga.
M.: Both are the same
After some time the man continued: Then I have to conclude that I am Consciousness and that nothing occurs except by my presence.
M.: It is one thing to conclude it by reasoning and another thing to be convinced.
The other man continued: I shall wait three months and see if help is forthcoming. Now, may I have the assurance?
M.: Is this what is asked by one who has surrendered?
Four visitors retired. The same man continued to say “Fulfill your promise.” (Laughter).
He also said: God has given me enough for bread and butter and I am happy. In addition I want peace of mind. Hence this request.
D.: Surrender comes after effort.
M.: Yes, it becomes complete in due course.
D.: Is a teacher necessary for instructions?
M.: Yes, if you want to learn anything new. But here you have to unlearn.
D.: Yet a teacher is necessary.
M.: You have already got what you seek elsewhere. So no teacher is necessary.
D.: Is there any use of the man of Realisation for the seeker?
M.: Yes. He helps you to get rid of your delusion that you are not realised.
D.: So, tell me how.
M.: The paths are meant only to de-hypnotise the individual.
D.: De-hypnotise me. Tell me what method to follow.
M.: Where are you now? Where should you go?
D.: I know ‘I am’; but I do not know what I am.
M.: Are there two ‘I’s then?
D.: It is begging the question.
M.: Who says this? Is it the one who is, or is it the other who does not know what he is?
D.: I am, but do not know what or how?
M.: ‘I’ is always there.
D.: Does the ‘I’ undergo any transformation, say in death?
M.: Who witnesses the transformation?
D.: You seem to speak Jnana yoga. This is Jnana yoga.
M.: Yes, it is.
D.: But surrender is bhakti yoga.
M.: Both are the same
After some time the man continued: Then I have to conclude that I am Consciousness and that nothing occurs except by my presence.
M.: It is one thing to conclude it by reasoning and another thing to be convinced.
The other man continued: I shall wait three months and see if help is forthcoming. Now, may I have the assurance?
M.: Is this what is asked by one who has surrendered?
Four visitors retired. The same man continued to say “Fulfill your promise.” (Laughter).
He also said: God has given me enough for bread and butter and I am happy. In addition I want peace of mind. Hence this request.
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