Sri Ramana Maharshi
Two ladies and two gentlemen from Ceylon.
D.: Have you realised God? If so, in what shape?
M.: Who remains there to see God? The question might well be if one has known oneself.
D.: I have known myself.
M.: Is the ‘I’ different from the Self that you say you have known the Self?
D.: I know the Self as identical with the body. If the Self be different from the body let Bhagavan tell me how to see the Self separate from the body. He has realised God. He can teach me.
M.: Why should the Self be separated from the body? Let the body remain as it is.
D.: The soul when disembodied can see through all bodies.
M.: Are there others then? Or is there even your own body? Consider your sleep - You do not know your body then. But still you are there all the same. Did you then perceive the world through this or other bodies? Nevertheless, you cannot deny your existence then. There must be a subject to see the world and the subject must also be limited. If unlimited how can there be others beside the unlimited Self?
D.: Does God have any limits?
M.: Leave God alone. What limits were there for your Self in your sleep?
D.: Death must then be the highest state.
M.: Yes. We are now living in Death. Those who have limited the unlimited Self have committed suicide by putting on such limitations.
D.: Concentrate on the Self, you say. How to do it?
M.: If that is solved everything else is solved.
D.: Know thyself, you say. How to know the Self?
M.: You now know that you are the body.
D.: Raja yoga realises through the body, senses, etc., and Sri Bhagavan advises realisation by thinking. This is jnana yoga.
M.: How can you think without the body?
D.: God does not think.
M.: Why then did you start asking, “In what shape did you see God?”
D.: God must be felt through the senses.
M.: Are you not feeling God?
D.: Is everybody feeling God always?
M.: Yes.
D.: Then what is realisation?
M.: Realisation is to get rid of the delusion that you have not realised.
D.: I don’t catch the point.
They left, having taken a snapshot.
Two ladies and two gentlemen from Ceylon.
D.: Have you realised God? If so, in what shape?
M.: Who remains there to see God? The question might well be if one has known oneself.
D.: I have known myself.
M.: Is the ‘I’ different from the Self that you say you have known the Self?
D.: I know the Self as identical with the body. If the Self be different from the body let Bhagavan tell me how to see the Self separate from the body. He has realised God. He can teach me.
M.: Why should the Self be separated from the body? Let the body remain as it is.
D.: The soul when disembodied can see through all bodies.
M.: Are there others then? Or is there even your own body? Consider your sleep - You do not know your body then. But still you are there all the same. Did you then perceive the world through this or other bodies? Nevertheless, you cannot deny your existence then. There must be a subject to see the world and the subject must also be limited. If unlimited how can there be others beside the unlimited Self?
D.: Does God have any limits?
M.: Leave God alone. What limits were there for your Self in your sleep?
D.: Death must then be the highest state.
M.: Yes. We are now living in Death. Those who have limited the unlimited Self have committed suicide by putting on such limitations.
D.: Concentrate on the Self, you say. How to do it?
M.: If that is solved everything else is solved.
D.: Know thyself, you say. How to know the Self?
M.: You now know that you are the body.
D.: Raja yoga realises through the body, senses, etc., and Sri Bhagavan advises realisation by thinking. This is jnana yoga.
M.: How can you think without the body?
D.: God does not think.
M.: Why then did you start asking, “In what shape did you see God?”
D.: God must be felt through the senses.
M.: Are you not feeling God?
D.: Is everybody feeling God always?
M.: Yes.
D.: Then what is realisation?
M.: Realisation is to get rid of the delusion that you have not realised.
D.: I don’t catch the point.
They left, having taken a snapshot.
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