Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: But why did Pure Brahman become Isvara and manifest the universe if He did not mean it?
M.: Did Brahman or Isvara tell you so? You say that Brahman became Isvara, and so on. This too you did not say in your sleep. Only in your jagrat state you speak of Brahman, Isvara and universe. The jagrat state is a duality of subject and object - owing to the rise of thoughts. So they are your thought creations.
D.: But the world exists in my sleep even though I am not aware.
M.: What is the proof of its existence?
D.: Others are aware of it.
M.: Do they say so to you when you are in sleep or do you become aware of others who see the world in your sleep?
D.: No, but God is always aware.
M.: Leave God alone. Speak for yourself. You do not know God. He is only what you think of Him. Is he apart from you? He is that Pure Consciousness in which all ideas are formed. You are that Consciousness.
M.: Did Brahman or Isvara tell you so? You say that Brahman became Isvara, and so on. This too you did not say in your sleep. Only in your jagrat state you speak of Brahman, Isvara and universe. The jagrat state is a duality of subject and object - owing to the rise of thoughts. So they are your thought creations.
D.: But the world exists in my sleep even though I am not aware.
M.: What is the proof of its existence?
D.: Others are aware of it.
M.: Do they say so to you when you are in sleep or do you become aware of others who see the world in your sleep?
D.: No, but God is always aware.
M.: Leave God alone. Speak for yourself. You do not know God. He is only what you think of Him. Is he apart from you? He is that Pure Consciousness in which all ideas are formed. You are that Consciousness.
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