Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
V: Can this consciousness exist without forms?
M: This consciousness cannot know itself in the absence of a form, of food body essence. Body is a form. For example, you are detecting some bad smell. There must be something from which the bad smell emanates. So something must be present. Likewise, to have this touch of "I am ness", something must be there. And what is that something? Body, food essence. This body must be there, which is food essence. Storage of food essence is the body.
[After a long pause] I had high expectations in you, that you would initiate some interesting talks. If nobody talks, I will close the session and send people home.
V: I have done some homework for questions. I had to jot them down, because when I sit here all my questions vanish. When I go home, the questions come back.
You said one must always remember "I am".
M: Is it necessary that you should remember that you are? Spontaneously you know and remember that you are. That is why you have come here, have you not? Because you are. Stay put there.
Currently, you are not yet that knowledgeable to be able to realize the happiness that goes with that state. You have yet to evolve.
V: I don't get it.
M: You are not mature enough yet. And really .. when you finally understand, you will realize that all this, whatever you have understood, is not the truth.
V: This is what I realize in my mind.
M: What can the mind understand? Can the mind have any wisdom? Whatever passing show it observes that is the mind. Whatever is read, whatever is heard, that again flow out - that is the mind. Whatever earlier impressions entered, when they flow out, the flowing out is the mind.
V: Can this consciousness exist without forms?
M: This consciousness cannot know itself in the absence of a form, of food body essence. Body is a form. For example, you are detecting some bad smell. There must be something from which the bad smell emanates. So something must be present. Likewise, to have this touch of "I am ness", something must be there. And what is that something? Body, food essence. This body must be there, which is food essence. Storage of food essence is the body.
[After a long pause] I had high expectations in you, that you would initiate some interesting talks. If nobody talks, I will close the session and send people home.
V: I have done some homework for questions. I had to jot them down, because when I sit here all my questions vanish. When I go home, the questions come back.
You said one must always remember "I am".
M: Is it necessary that you should remember that you are? Spontaneously you know and remember that you are. That is why you have come here, have you not? Because you are. Stay put there.
Currently, you are not yet that knowledgeable to be able to realize the happiness that goes with that state. You have yet to evolve.
V: I don't get it.
M: You are not mature enough yet. And really .. when you finally understand, you will realize that all this, whatever you have understood, is not the truth.
V: This is what I realize in my mind.
M: What can the mind understand? Can the mind have any wisdom? Whatever passing show it observes that is the mind. Whatever is read, whatever is heard, that again flow out - that is the mind. Whatever earlier impressions entered, when they flow out, the flowing out is the mind.
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