Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
M: What are you going to do now?
V: Meditate.
M: When you say you are going into meditation, on what do you meditate?
V: I will sit and just watch what comes up, and then I keep telling myself: "That's something, that's something.."
M: That is all, nothing else.
V: And I will come here everyday, of course.
M: For four, five days!
V: What do you mean, four or five days?
M: You can come here four or five days.
V: Not longer?
M: There is no accommodation for newcomers. By all means, in order to thoroughly understand you can come. But then you should go.
V: Understanding itself is not enough for me.
M: Then what else do you want?
V: Become more realized... [giggling]
M: Realized? Whose realization? Somebody else's or yours? Your self-realization, would it be like this...[makes gesture]
V: What do you mean by "like this"? I have not understood the question.
M: Listen to my talks thoroughly for four or five days, and then go and imbibe them.
V: I am fully aware of the question I am going to put, but it cannot be grasped by the mind or the buddhi [intellect].
Somebody is realizing..the unmanifest..but there is nothing to realize..it is there forever. Time and space are not binding upon it. Correct?
M: Have you realized that? Is it your experience?
V: No.
M: Then don't ask me about somebody else. This "you-are-ness" does not occur to you. You are. Is it time-bound or is it beyond time? You now know that you were not. This "I-am-ness" was not; it has come afterwards. "I-am-ness" has come at a certain time. You know you are. Prior to that, this "you-are-ness" was not. So how can you say this "you-are-ness" is beyond time? It is time-bound. It has appeared; therefore, it must disappear.
M: What are you going to do now?
V: Meditate.
M: When you say you are going into meditation, on what do you meditate?
V: I will sit and just watch what comes up, and then I keep telling myself: "That's something, that's something.."
M: That is all, nothing else.
V: And I will come here everyday, of course.
M: For four, five days!
V: What do you mean, four or five days?
M: You can come here four or five days.
V: Not longer?
M: There is no accommodation for newcomers. By all means, in order to thoroughly understand you can come. But then you should go.
V: Understanding itself is not enough for me.
M: Then what else do you want?
V: Become more realized... [giggling]
M: Realized? Whose realization? Somebody else's or yours? Your self-realization, would it be like this...[makes gesture]
V: What do you mean by "like this"? I have not understood the question.
M: Listen to my talks thoroughly for four or five days, and then go and imbibe them.
V: I am fully aware of the question I am going to put, but it cannot be grasped by the mind or the buddhi [intellect].
Somebody is realizing..the unmanifest..but there is nothing to realize..it is there forever. Time and space are not binding upon it. Correct?
M: Have you realized that? Is it your experience?
V: No.
M: Then don't ask me about somebody else. This "you-are-ness" does not occur to you. You are. Is it time-bound or is it beyond time? You now know that you were not. This "I-am-ness" was not; it has come afterwards. "I-am-ness" has come at a certain time. You know you are. Prior to that, this "you-are-ness" was not. So how can you say this "you-are-ness" is beyond time? It is time-bound. It has appeared; therefore, it must disappear.
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