Jiva Cannot Be Independent of Ishwara

Sri Ramana Maharshi

D.: Is not jiva the reflected light, the ‘I-thought’?

M.: He is also a jiva; before it also he is jiva; the one of them is related to the other as cause and effect. The sleeper jiva cannot be independent of Isvara. On waking he says “I am the body”. If all the worlds together form virat, the body is a tiny dot in it. Thus the body is in and of virat. What belongs to the jiva then? Only the conceit makes him claim the body as himself but not the others.

He cannot be independent of virat. Similarly,

(1) Isvara

(Causal Cosmic Being) → Prajna (individual being in deep sleep)

(2) Hiranyagarbha

(Causal Subtle Being) → Taijasa (individual subtle being)

(3) Virat

(Causal gross Being) → Visva (individual gross being)

(4) Maya

(Causal Ignorance adjunct to Isvara) → Ignorance adjunct to Jiva

(5) Brahman

(Cause) → Jiva (Effect)

They say that all these five groups should be unified. This they call the unity of the Five. All these are only polemics!